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Bongo-devel Digest, Vol 37, Issue 2
Michael Papet
2010-01-13 17:02:49 UTC
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Lance, this is pretty easy.

use a wget job to download a url. 'wget http://bongo.org/hello.htm' to /tmp. wget has an overwrite option. The trick is to randomize the day/hour/minute on the cron job. Otherwise you will have the 'thundering herd' problem.

Track the number of hits on the url with a web log parser.

Wget should be standard on any linux distro.

I can work a perl/bash script up for you, but it'll take quite a bit of time as my schedule right now is very tight.

Mike.
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Hi All,
I have been creating images for Bongo now for a few years
and one of the problems we have is that we have no idea how
many people use the images or Bongo for that matter.
I was thinking how we could create some way to show user
numbers.
I have seen that another project has a cronjob that
downloads a txt file from the project web server and then
deletes it.
This gives them the rough numbers of servers out there and
also which countries the servers are sitting.
On the website they tell the users of the cronjob and how
to turn it off.
Does anyone have any ideas how we can start tracking the
number of Bongo servers out there?
I really want this to be implemented soon so we can know
how many there are, this will help me to determine how
urgent any fixes need to be compiled for the images.
Can I please have your thoughts and suggestions.
Regards
Lance
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Lance Haig
2010-01-13 17:59:38 UTC
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Hi Mike,

I have a cronjob already but some people might not like the fact the server will be "phoning home", that is why I put it to the lists so that we can see how many people object.

Thanks for the offer though I might make use of your skills at a later stage.

Thanks again

Lance
Post by Michael Papet
Lance, this is pretty easy.
use a wget job to download a url. 'wget http://bongo.org/hello.htm' to /tmp. wget has an overwrite option. The trick is to randomize the day/hour/minute on the cron job. Otherwise you will have the 'thundering herd' problem.
Track the number of hits on the url with a web log parser.
Wget should be standard on any linux distro.
I can work a perl/bash script up for you, but it'll take quite a bit of time as my schedule right now is very tight.
Mike.
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Hi All,
I have been creating images for Bongo now for a few years
and one of the problems we have is that we have no idea how
many people use the images or Bongo for that matter.
I was thinking how we could create some way to show user
numbers.
I have seen that another project has a cronjob that
downloads a txt file from the project web server and then
deletes it.
This gives them the rough numbers of servers out there and
also which countries the servers are sitting.
On the website they tell the users of the cronjob and how
to turn it off.
Does anyone have any ideas how we can start tracking the
number of Bongo servers out there?
I really want this to be implemented soon so we can know
how many there are, this will help me to determine how
urgent any fixes need to be compiled for the images.
Can I please have your thoughts and suggestions.
Regards
Lance
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Lance Haig
2010-01-13 20:39:16 UTC
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Thanks for the ideas.

Has anyone else got alternatives or strong feelings about this phoning
home feature?

Regards

Lance
Just document the fact it's phoning home and what it is doing when in the act of phoning home and how to disable it. In a related note, it might be a good idea to collect uptime/crash info while it's phoning home. As long as the 'phoning home' isn't terribly complicated, (ex. a script) then it won't be an issue for even an amateur admin.
There might be somebody at some point cry foul, but the reasonable reply is "It's documented. If it's a problem for you, turn it off. This kind of flame baiting is not welcome." Or more derogatory, "You want to cry wolf over this one? It's well documented including how to turn it off. Begone!"
Mike.
Subject: Re: [Bongo-devel] Bongo-devel Digest, Vol 37, Issue 2
Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 9:59 AM
Hi Mike,
I have a cronjob already but some people might not like the
fact the server will be "phoning home", that is why I put it
to the lists so that we can see how many people object.
Thanks for the offer though I might make use of your skills
at a later stage.
Thanks again
Lance
Post by Michael Papet
Lance, this is pretty easy.
use a wget job to download a url. 'wget http://bongo.org/hello.htm' to /tmp. wget has an
overwrite option. The trick is to randomize
the day/hour/minute on the cron job. Otherwise you
will have the 'thundering herd' problem.
Post by Michael Papet
Track the number of hits on the url with a web log
parser.
Post by Michael Papet
Wget should be standard on any linux distro.
I can work a perl/bash script up for you, but it'll
take quite a bit of time as my schedule right now is very
tight.
Post by Michael Papet
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1. Usage Tracking Ideas (Lance Haig)
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Post by Michael Papet
Message: 1
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 10:27:37 +0000
Subject: [Bongo-devel] Usage Tracking Ideas
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Hi All,
I have been creating images for Bongo now for a
few years
Post by Michael Papet
and one of the problems we have is that we have no
idea how
Post by Michael Papet
many people use the images or Bongo for that
matter.
Post by Michael Papet
I was thinking how we could create some way to
show user
Post by Michael Papet
numbers.
I have seen that another project has a cronjob
that
Post by Michael Papet
downloads a txt file from the project web server
and then
Post by Michael Papet
deletes it.
This gives them the rough numbers of servers out
there and
Post by Michael Papet
also which countries the servers are sitting.
On the website they tell the users of the cronjob
and how
Post by Michael Papet
to turn it off.
Does anyone have any ideas how we can start
tracking the
Post by Michael Papet
number of Bongo servers out there?
I really want this to be implemented soon so we
can know
Post by Michael Papet
how many there are, this will help me to determine
how
Post by Michael Papet
urgent any fixes need to be compiled for the
images.
Post by Michael Papet
Can I please have your thoughts and suggestions.
Regards
Lance
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